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    tonyccc said:

    Here is my story. It was the middle of the night. I opened my eyes and was awakened by earth shattering pain. My big toe was throbbing. In fact it felt like a towering inferno.?
    I turned on the light and was startled to see that my great toe was 3 times its normal size. It was bright red and red hot, just like a firecracker and the pain was the most severe that I?ve ever experienced by far.
    The suffering that I had to endure was almost unbelievable.
    That was over ten years ago. At the beginning I was having attacks
    every 6 months. Then gradually I was getting them every 3 months, then every month and eventually
    every week.It started at my big toe and then it was moving sometimes in my knees,and generally
    all around my joints, in my feet.And the pain was agonising.
    I have tried all the cures you can imagine.I tried ACV, lemons, drinking a lot of water, but to no avail.
    I tried water fasting, juice fasting,baking soda, again without success.
    I almost gave up meat, limiting it? to only once a week ,gave up alcohol completely,again no success.
    I was living on? vegetables, lots and lots of fresh fruit, milk ,cheese beans and so on .My eating habits
    could not be healthier ,or so I thought.But my gout was worsening.
    Then I decided to increase the amount of fruit I was consuming, thinking that if some fruit is healthy, more
    fruit will be more healthy.Some days I was eating fruit only ,others over 10 portions a day.
    And alas my gout instead of improving it became chronic ,it was there all the time.
    I was desperate I did not know what to do.And then one day accidentally I read an article about fructose,
    which is contained in fruit in large quantities.It said that it increases uric acid, in a matter of minutes.
    Fructose is also present in table sugar, and? in HFCS, which is used in soft drinks.
    I put two and two together and realised what I was doing wrong.
    I stopped eating fruit and all other sugars, for a period of 3 weeks,and by magic I saw a dramatic
    improvement.Pain was gone, swelling was gone, I was fine.
    I re introduced fruit again in my diet but reducing them to 1 or 2 a day, and my gout almost disappeared.
    I do eat more meat now, and occasionally have an alcoholic drink, and thank God I? everything seems to be fine.
    Fructose was my enemy.

    odo said:

    I was going to say 8 months isn't that long to be so confident, but you didn't mention you were on Allo in your original post. It's good to eliminate fructose, but the Allo has to take the majority of the credit for your success.

    laugh?Tony… Fructose has definately been my trigger and it appears Red Wine is bed, yet lager isn't to bad? I've cut back on the fruit juice massively and it has made a world of difference. Attack free since June 2010. My uric acid count has also gone down… but even when it spikes the dreaded toe does not return…. I had quite a bit of fruit the other week and I got the night twinges again. I guess we are all different but it seems to be working for me?

    in reply to: Fructose and Uric Acid #11721

    Hi Guys. Its been a while since I posted. I had my first attack, the classic big toe last April (2010) and had another in August. I tried loads of stuff and had the gout tingles up until around December…. I got a self test Kit and my uric acid was around 9mg – 11mg at this time (I cannot remember the scale chars exactly, its the measure used in the UK, although I'm currently in NZ). I was driving all and sundry crazy with my fear of the gout, but once you have experienced that pain you will go to extraordinary lengths to cure your self (drinking baking soda, buying Apple Cider Vinegar, getting a test kit, over dosing on cherries, drinking more water than humanly possible and researching alkaline diets… but to name a few)


    Then I stumbled across the fructose thing…. I ditched fruit Juice and only occasionally have the odd piece of fruit. I stopped testing myself as to be fair I didn't get the twinges after a while? I personally don't know if there is anything in it or that I'm simply in the early stages of gout (I'm 38).. but I've been fine since. I drink a little more coffee these days to flush the kidneys and always put salt on my chips now as well!?But I've just tested myself and?my reading is?6.2. I'm still drinking a few pints a week and don't really watch what I eat anymore and have even started on the fish again! I also weigh about 6lbs more than this time last year! Maybe I'm in crystal deposit mode?


    Although wine seems like a bad move for me and sometimes get the odd twinge or itchy feet (on the base of my feet) which strangely seems to be a pre-cursor to an?attack. I have read that the huge increase in fructose in our diet maybe responsible?for the rise in gout world wide? I remember as a kid that Orange Juice was a bit of a treat, now its a mainstay in our diets (if you want it!). Disease of the Rich, I guess in days gone by your average Monarch would eat more fruit?


    I also know that gout is a complicated and very individual disorder from all the posts I read, so this will not apply to all… But I'd definitely give it a go….




    in reply to: New to Gout but low UA Levels Mystery? #9262

    I think the scale im on is mg/dl as im in the UK like trev. I definately didn't break the toe as I had it xrayed.

    I feel for you people with this, it really sucks! I guess there's worse things to cope with in life and its about time I gave up the drink anyway. I'll go back to the GP in a few months and get him to test me again, just in case the Kidneys are packing in! In the mean time I guess I could look into getting some Colchicine tablets, just in case I feel an attack coming on.

    Thanks for your comments and keep up the good work, helping newbies like me.

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